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2012-07-25T07:10:01  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender_, morning
2012-07-25T07:12:02  <ecthiender_> arvind_khadri, morning :)
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2012-07-25T07:12:40  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, whats up?
2012-07-25T07:13:20  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, nothing much, getting ready for afternoon, there is a presentation today afternoon I have to make in Chancery pavillion
2012-07-25T07:13:27  <arvind_khadri> in a conference called MDM
2012-07-25T07:13:56  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh ok. about what?
2012-07-25T07:14:07  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, I mean what is the conference about?
2012-07-25T07:14:57  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, it is about how mobiles have brought in changes to the society.
2012-07-25T07:15:07  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh nice.
2012-07-25T07:15:18  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, cool. you'd be talking about alipi/
2012-07-25T07:15:19  <ecthiender> ?
2012-07-25T07:15:23  <arvind_khadri> yes :)
2012-07-25T07:15:29  <arvind_khadri> it is a short talk
2012-07-25T07:15:31  <arvind_khadri> 5 min thing
2012-07-25T07:18:04  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh ok. nice
2012-07-25T07:18:19  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, have you put up your slides anywhere?
2012-07-25T07:18:31  <ecthiender> maybe you can put them up in slideshare? arvind_khadri
2012-07-25T07:18:32  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, for hasgeek?
2012-07-25T07:18:40  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, no. for general.
2012-07-25T07:18:55  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, I don't have any general slides
2012-07-25T07:19:27  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, but the slides would be explaining alipi anyway, what do you mean its not general slides? :o
2012-07-25T07:19:43  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, you can use the same slides for all the talk also.
2012-07-25T07:19:50  <ecthiender> s/talk/talks/
2012-07-25T07:19:51  <alipi_not> What ecthiender meant to say was: arvind_khadri, you can use the same slides for all the talks also.
2012-07-25T07:20:12  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, fifth elephant slides don't explain alipi, and never use same slides for all talks
2012-07-25T07:20:23  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, why?
2012-07-25T07:20:49  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, as that makes the talk boring, and maybe out of context too.
2012-07-25T07:21:25  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, ?? if you are talking about alipi in different places; i thought you could use the same slides. anyway
2012-07-25T07:22:29  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, no, see even though I am presenting alipi in hasgeek, it wont be the same slides for say PyCon
2012-07-25T08:42:31  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, http://www.slideshare.net/arvindkhadri/arvind5el-13747560
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2012-07-25T08:58:10  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, you didnt have to put up the slides for me
2012-07-25T09:05:30  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, I dint put it up for you :P
2012-07-25T09:05:43  <arvind_khadri> I have shared it on funnel too :D
2012-07-25T09:06:28  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh ok
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2012-07-25T10:40:39  <ajaykools> ecthiender, arvind_khadri Hi
2012-07-25T10:41:49  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, hello
2012-07-25T10:42:23  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, any good file server which supports http?
2012-07-25T10:44:46  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, file servers don't run on http.
2012-07-25T10:45:09  <ajaykools> ?? arvind_khadri
2012-07-25T10:45:40  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, i'm asking any file server which supports http... for downloading or uploading
2012-07-25T10:45:45  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, file servers use ftp
2012-07-25T10:46:09  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, file servers don't support http!!
2012-07-25T10:46:12  <ecthiender> hello ajaykools
2012-07-25T10:46:15  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, only FTP or any other??
2012-07-25T10:46:36  <ajaykools> ecthiender, hi... any file server which supports http??
2012-07-25T10:47:18  <ecthiender> ajaykools, I dont know of any. I think arvind_khadri is correct
2012-07-25T10:47:21  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, if file server doesn't support http then whta is HFS???
2012-07-25T10:47:31  <ajaykools> ecthiender, ^^
2012-07-25T10:47:41  <ecthiender> ajaykools, no idea
2012-07-25T10:47:53  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, HFS is hierarchical file system
2012-07-25T10:48:07  <arvind_khadri> which is used in Linux extensively
2012-07-25T10:48:12  <arvind_khadri> ,google HFS
2012-07-25T10:48:13  <alipi_not> arvind_khadri: HFS ~ HTTP File Server: <http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/>; HFS : Home: <http://www.hfs.illinois.gov/>; HFS Federal Credit Union: <https://www.hfsfcu.org/>; UW Housing & Food Services: <http://hfs.washington.edu/>; HFS Benefits, a TASC Company: <http://www.hfsbenefits.com/>; HFS at 97.5 Baltimore's Rock Alternative | WWMX-HD2 :HFStival, Alt ...: (1 more message)
2012-07-25T10:48:21  <ajaykools> ecthiender, arvind_khadri file server supports http like HFS but i want for linux. so asking u...
2012-07-25T10:49:03  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, hahaha.... go to first link here
2012-07-25T10:49:06  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, I think ajaykools meant this: http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/
2012-07-25T10:49:07  <alipi_not> Title: HFS ~ HTTP File Server (at www.rejetto.com)
2012-07-25T10:49:10  <ajaykools> , google HFS
2012-07-25T10:49:11  <alipi_not> ajaykools: HFS ~ HTTP File Server: <http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/>; HFS : Home: <http://www.hfs.illinois.gov/>; HFS Federal Credit Union: <https://www.hfsfcu.org/>; UW Housing & Food Services: <http://hfs.washington.edu/>; HFS Benefits, a TASC Company: <http://www.hfsbenefits.com/>; HFS at 97.5 Baltimore's Rock Alternative | WWMX-HD2 :HFStival, Alt ...: <http://whfs.radio.com/>; (1 more message)
2012-07-25T10:49:36  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, why do you want to run file server over http? The point is you should not run it, http is not meant for that'
2012-07-25T10:50:58  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, i know but here for some thing i need it. the structure is something like that. so asking.... i need to upload or download files thru http.
2012-07-25T10:51:10  <ecthiender> yeah ajaykools . FTP was designed to transer files. it is the File Transfer Protocol.
2012-07-25T10:51:25  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, mean to say, customer need to upload /download files from file server through HTTP
2012-07-25T10:51:53  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, then use apache itself to do it
2012-07-25T10:52:16  <arvind_khadri> the backend script will upload/download the file
2012-07-25T10:52:17  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, how?? anyy idea?
2012-07-25T10:52:36  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, ya true...
2012-07-25T10:53:05  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, umm, say /file is the URL, when a customer wants to download, send a GET request to that url
2012-07-25T10:53:15  <arvind_khadri> if he has to upload then send a POST request
2012-07-25T10:53:38  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri, maga.... ok wait. i will explain you.
2012-07-25T10:54:41  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, I think ajaykools needs a server just to serve files and handle uploads. a typical file server, a portal like.
2012-07-25T10:55:02  <ecthiender> ajaykools, am I right?
2012-07-25T10:55:23  <ecthiender> ajaykools, you dont want your application to handle file uploads/downloads but have a seperate portal for it?
2012-07-25T10:58:21  <arvind_khadri> ajaykools, I have to run now
2012-07-25T10:59:15  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, where?
2012-07-25T10:59:16  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, to do what he told, he either needs to create a application like hfs, or just use restful instances from whatver backend he is using
2012-07-25T10:59:30  <ecthiender> s/where/to where/
2012-07-25T10:59:31  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, going to do a presentation :)
2012-07-25T10:59:31  <alipi_not> What ecthiender meant to say was: arvind_khadri, to where?
2012-07-25T10:59:38  <arvind_khadri> the MDM thing
2012-07-25T10:59:40  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh right. all the best :)
2012-07-25T10:59:46  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, when will you be back?
2012-07-25T10:59:47  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, thanks :)
2012-07-25T10:59:56  <arvind_khadri> around 7/8
2012-07-25T11:00:14  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, okay :)
2012-07-25T11:00:19  <arvind_khadri> bye
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2012-07-25T11:00:23  <ecthiender> bye
2012-07-25T11:11:48  <ajaykools> ecthiender, u r right man. see... basically a router does all those uploading/downloaing things. so if a router has to upload or download file then it should has some protocol, right? that protocol is http here, the only protocol could do this uploading/downloading in our ROUTERS. Only http is enabled in router so i"m asking...
2012-07-25T11:12:05  <ajaykools> arvind_khadri ^^
2012-07-25T11:12:52  <ajaykools> :-)
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2012-07-25T11:30:27  <ecthiender> ajaykools, well routers can also operate with ftp.
2012-07-25T11:37:30  <ajaykools> ecthiender, ya but it should have enabled in routers na.
2012-07-25T11:38:00  <ajaykools> ecthiender, that we can't do... we can't go to all customers and ask them to enable FTP. :(
2012-07-25T11:39:02  <ecthiender> ajaykools, no I didnt mean that. I just said that routers can also understand FTP.
2012-07-25T11:39:25  <ecthiender> ajaykools, anyway. so you need to write an application to handle file uploads/downloads from the router/
2012-07-25T11:39:28  <ecthiender> ?
2012-07-25T11:39:51  <ajaykools> ecthiender,I got what u syaing but, these routers doesn't understand that.
2012-07-25T11:40:10  <ecthiender> ajaykools, oh ok.
2012-07-25T11:41:48  <ajaykools> ecthiender, these routers ONLY undestand http... For space purpose they have not wrote any other code for FTP or any other protocols.
2012-07-25T11:42:21  <ecthiender> ajaykools, okay man. I get it. Please read above ^
2012-07-25T11:42:46  <ajaykools> ecthiender, application is already there in routers for uploading /downloading. I need a file server which servers file for HTTP... hope u got.
2012-07-25T11:44:40  <ajaykools> ecthiender, s/file for HTTP / file through HTTP/
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2012-07-25T12:16:26  <ecthiender> abhinav_singh, http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/145495/
2012-07-25T12:16:27  <alipi_not> Title: Politik Lyric Meaning - Coldplay Meanings (at www.songmeanings.net)
2012-07-25T12:17:18  <ecthiender> abhinav_singh, http://www.lyricinterpretations.com/Coldplay/Politik
2012-07-25T12:17:19  <alipi_not> Title: Politik Lyrics Meaning - Coldplay Song Meanings (at www.lyricinterpretations.com)
2012-07-25T12:17:42  <abhinav_singh> yeah looking ecthiender
2012-07-25T12:17:55  <ecthiender> abhinav_singh, someone says this also : This song is about the uncertainties of life. It briefly tackles the subjects of death and war. (thanks, kat - boston, MA)
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2012-07-25T15:37:51  <ecthiender> abhinav_singh, http://www.aosabook.org/en/ffreleng.html
2012-07-25T15:37:52  <alipi_not> Title: The Architecture of Open Source Applications (Volume 2): Firefox Release Engineering (at www.aosabook.org)
2012-07-25T15:39:10  <ecthiender> ,later tell arvind_khadri http://www.aosabook.org/en/ffreleng.html
2012-07-25T15:39:10  <alipi_not> ecthiender: The operation succeeded.
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