2012-07-30T07:12:58 *** ajaykools has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T07:33:35 *** ecthiender has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T07:37:45 *** pradi has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T07:54:03 *** pradi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-07-30T08:02:22 *** arvind_khadri has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T08:03:21 *** pradi has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T08:03:51 *** arvind_khadri has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T08:04:18 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) 2012-07-30T08:04:42 *** arvind_khadri has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T08:05:07 ecthiender, morning :) 2012-07-30T08:06:11 arvind_khadri, morning :) 2012-07-30T08:08:05 ecthiender, interactive fiction or normal games? 2012-07-30T08:14:07 arvind_khadri, sorry was in daily status. 2012-07-30T08:14:24 ecthiender, that is ok :) I understood that :) 2012-07-30T08:15:30 arvind_khadri, umm.. I was thinking that we should do some simple games first. I am not for jumping into full fledged games at first. there are lot of aspects to gaming. Understanding all of them fairly is important. 2012-07-30T08:15:44 arvind_khadri, and then maybe look into interactive fiction 2012-07-30T08:15:56 arvind_khadri, but first should be the alipi app. 2012-07-30T08:16:15 arvind_khadri, thats how I see it. now speak your mind. 2012-07-30T08:16:42 https://github.com/curiousdannii/gnusto 2012-07-30T08:16:43 Title: curiousdannii/gnusto · GitHub (at github.com) 2012-07-30T08:17:01 ecthiender, look at that :) Z-code compiler for JS 2012-07-30T08:17:57 arvind_khadri, naaice :) 2012-07-30T08:17:57 I am just bored of doing alipi, so was looking for a change. And IF does not need other aspects of gaming, that is the beauty, if you want to just keep it text based as of now 2012-07-30T08:18:24 In IF all you need is a story and a grasping one 2012-07-30T08:18:35 arvind_khadri, I know. but I am interested in those aspects of gaming. like rendering and networking etc. 2012-07-30T08:18:45 ecthiender, I understand :) 2012-07-30T08:18:47 arvind_khadri, and we dont have a story. 2012-07-30T08:18:55 http://gamvas.com/ take a loot at this. 2012-07-30T08:18:56 arvind_khadri, 2012-07-30T08:18:56 Title: Home : Gamvas - the html5 canvas game engine (at gamvas.com) 2012-07-30T08:19:56 ecthiender, I was thinking that we should start with developing a basic framework for the game that we have in mind 2012-07-30T08:20:07 and then we think of stories for different languages 2012-07-30T08:22:59 ecthiender, gamvas looks great 2012-07-30T08:27:22 arvind_khadri, yeah. but before that little hacking around the tools/programs that we are going to use and make some small platform games maybe. and then after that initial experience start designing a framework like thing. 2012-07-30T08:27:57 arvind_khadri, and ofcourse we should be designing frameworks and game engines and not games itself. thats what I see down the line. 2012-07-30T08:28:08 ecthiender, hmm 2012-07-30T08:28:27 ecthiender, I was thinking maybe we could talk about some gaming during barcamp 2012-07-30T08:28:48 arvind_khadri, also I think we should really do the fb app. cause that might fetch some money. 2012-07-30T08:29:00 arvind_khadri, I cant :P. I dont know anything about gaming. 2012-07-30T08:29:56 ecthiender, hmm 2012-07-30T08:30:36 arvind_khadri, hey this gdata-python-client is a python library for the google data apis right? 2012-07-30T08:30:46 ecthiender, yes 2012-07-30T08:31:04 ecthiender, python-client library 2012-07-30T08:31:07 arvind_khadri, so I can edit docs using that API? 2012-07-30T08:31:22 ecthiender, yes 2012-07-30T08:31:42 arvind_khadri, cool. for that do I need to create a client application? 2012-07-30T08:31:53 ecthiender, yes 2012-07-30T08:32:59 arvind_khadri, okay. so how do I go about creating an application and obtaining a key? 2012-07-30T08:33:21 *** pradi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-07-30T08:33:33 dev.google.com :) ecthiender 2012-07-30T08:34:05 arvind_khadri, apparently half of their links are broken 2012-07-30T08:34:20 ecthiender, true 2012-07-30T08:34:54 I figured most of the stuff from ipython not from their online docs 2012-07-30T08:35:43 arvind_khadri, oh okay. 2012-07-30T08:36:06 arvind_khadri, what talk are you intending to give in barcamp? regarding what exactly? 2012-07-30T08:36:23 arvind_khadri, and did we register for barcamp? 2012-07-30T08:38:08 ecthiender, I did register. I was thinking of talking about the challenges that we faced during doing the frameowrk 2012-07-30T08:38:17 *** pradi has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T08:38:21 given that we are doing it :) 2012-07-30T08:38:43 arvind_khadri, wtf?! we havent even done anything! 2012-07-30T08:38:51 arvind_khadri, and barcamp is on 25th 2012-07-30T08:38:59 ecthiender, there are 25 days 2012-07-30T08:39:59 arvind_khadri, yes but I am not available full time for the project. I can spare probably 5 days. 2012-07-30T08:40:35 arvind_khadri, and you didnt tell me that you registered for barcamp. 2012-07-30T08:40:56 ecthiender, there is nothing called registered in barcamp, just go create a login man :) 2012-07-30T08:41:01 I had done it last year 2012-07-30T08:41:07 arvind_khadri, oh ok 2012-07-30T08:41:19 arvind_khadri, no reg fees? 2012-07-30T08:41:52 ecthiender, nope 2012-07-30T08:42:02 arvind_khadri, oh cool :) 2012-07-30T08:42:15 *** pradi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-07-30T08:42:17 arvind_khadri, and are you up for Kodi? last week of aug? 2012-07-30T08:42:30 ecthiender, ya 2012-07-30T08:42:40 arvind_khadri, we'll be leaving on 30th. cool :) 2012-07-30T08:46:01 *** pradi has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T08:46:03 ecthiender, nice 2012-07-30T08:46:21 arvind_khadri, hmm. so are you planning to abandon alipi for one month and work on a framework? actually you can do it if you want. that'll be cool. we'll have one guy already gotten his hands dirty by then, which is nice. 2012-07-30T08:46:39 * ecthiender pushes arvind_khadri to work on the framework 2012-07-30T08:47:02 arvind_khadri, I'll join in when I can 2012-07-30T08:47:06 ecthiender, I want to do that, but that then the interns are here only for a month more 2012-07-30T08:47:14 I was thinking of that too. 2012-07-30T08:47:22 So I don't know yet 2012-07-30T08:50:10 arvind_khadri, hmm 2012-07-30T08:50:52 arvind_khadri, but I think the fb app is important if we can apply for that thing. right? 2012-07-30T08:52:00 ecthiender, true 2012-07-30T09:07:06 *** ajay_ has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T09:15:46 ecthiender, btw do you like dream theater :) ?? 2012-07-30T09:16:20 arvind_khadri, used to. after listening to Jethro Tull and Soft Machine and the likes, not anymore :) 2012-07-30T09:16:27 arvind_khadri, but they are ok. :) 2012-07-30T09:16:38 ecthiender, I liked pettruci :) 2012-07-30T09:16:43 I downloaded their disco 2012-07-30T09:16:44 arvind_khadri, hmm 2012-07-30T09:16:50 oh cool 2012-07-30T09:17:04 their guitar is good 2012-07-30T09:17:17 specially the drummer 2012-07-30T09:26:32 ecthiender, ^ 2012-07-30T09:28:56 arvind_khadri, yeah the drummer is quite famous. Mike Portnoy. 2012-07-30T09:29:16 arvind_khadri, actually all of them are quite accomplished and famous in their own instruments. 2012-07-30T09:29:25 ecthiender, hmmm ya. :) 2012-07-30T09:29:36 I never knew that they had influence on PF 2012-07-30T09:29:55 arvind_khadri, I personally dont like the guitarist thought. He sounds like he doesnt have any emotions 2012-07-30T09:30:10 ecthiender, pettruci? 2012-07-30T09:30:21 arvind_khadri, what??? PF had influence on them. not the other way around. DT is a modern band. 2012-07-30T09:30:28 arvind_khadri, yeah John Petrucci 2012-07-30T09:30:44 ecthiender, oh yea, sorry :) 2012-07-30T09:30:58 I typed it wrong 2012-07-30T09:33:43 ecthiender, Steve Vai is good no :) 2012-07-30T09:35:01 arvind_khadri, well yeah. but the thing is now I am listening to guys who influenced these guys. so the charm is sort of gone you know. and also I dont like the prog rock scene that is there now. 2012-07-30T09:36:18 ecthiender, hmmm ya :) The scene around 80's for prog is what am talking 2012-07-30T09:36:51 arvind_khadri, 80's never had DT or Vai :) 2012-07-30T09:37:03 late 80's 2012-07-30T09:37:09 or early 90's 2012-07-30T09:37:12 they started then 2012-07-30T09:37:22 arvind_khadri, okay. so whats your point? 2012-07-30T09:37:49 ecthiender, nothing that they are good, and I like them :) 2012-07-30T09:38:37 arvind_khadri, I mean c'mon you feel what you feel. If you like Vai and Petrucci, thats good. I used to like them too, when I was till my 3rd year I guess. but now I have outgrown them. I dont like listening to them anymore. 2012-07-30T09:38:42 cool :) 2012-07-30T09:40:05 ecthiender, ya :) I mean they are good once in a while. 2012-07-30T09:41:42 arvind_khadri, hmm. its a personal thing is my belief :) 2012-07-30T09:42:17 ecthiender, yes it is.. People having common tastes differ at some point 2012-07-30T09:42:31 arvind_khadri, ofcourse :) and thats the beauty 2012-07-30T09:42:33 :) 2012-07-30T09:44:53 ecthiender, satch is god of em all 2012-07-30T09:44:57 :) 2012-07-30T09:45:03 :) 2012-07-30T09:45:59 he has lot of emotions in his music ecthiender 2012-07-30T09:46:35 arvind_khadri, hmm 2012-07-30T10:34:47 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-07-30T10:36:13 *** ecthiender has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T10:49:03 ecthiender, ping 2012-07-30T10:51:05 I will soon be able to lay hands on some manila grass, we will share :) 2012-07-30T10:54:47 arvind_khadri, ping 2012-07-30T10:54:55 arvind_khadri, sure :) 2012-07-30T10:54:57 arvind_khadri, cool 2012-07-30T10:55:19 arvind_khadri, hey Dinesh cc'd me with some mail, I did not understand 2012-07-30T10:55:30 and check this out: http://code.google.com/p/bob-moog-google-doodle/ 2012-07-30T10:55:31 Title: bob-moog-google-doodle - Web Audio pipeline from the Bob Moog Google Doodle. - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com) 2012-07-30T10:55:43 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Quit: gotta go) 2012-07-30T10:56:02 *** ecthiender has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T10:56:48 arvind_khadri, ping 2012-07-30T10:57:06 ecthiender, pong 2012-07-30T10:57:24 arvind_khadri, Dinesh cc'd me with some mail, I did not understand 2012-07-30T10:57:47 ecthiender, yes, I read the mail. Can I answer that here, or shall I say it elsewhere 2012-07-30T10:57:57 arvind_khadri, mail me 2012-07-30T10:58:05 ecthiender, ok 2012-07-30T10:58:11 arvind_khadri, and did you get the link? 2012-07-30T10:58:16 ecthiender, yes 2012-07-30T10:58:25 September is it? Not August? 2012-07-30T11:00:25 arvind_khadri, http://www.brandonpelfrey.com/blog/the-construct/ 2012-07-30T11:00:26 Title: The Construct | Brandon Pelfrey (at www.brandonpelfrey.com) 2012-07-30T11:00:27 arvind_khadri, yeah 2012-07-30T11:00:40 ecthiender, :( 2012-07-30T11:01:26 arvind_khadri, check out The Construct. I like it :) 2012-07-30T11:01:54 ecthiender, hmmm 2012-07-30T11:18:07 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-07-30T11:21:24 *** ecthiender__ has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T11:21:38 *** ecthiender__ is now known as ecthiender 2012-07-30T11:26:23 arvind_khadri, ping 2012-07-30T11:26:29 arvind_khadri, bad internet here 2012-07-30T11:26:37 ecthiender, aah ok 2012-07-30T13:02:12 *** ajaykools has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-07-30T13:05:38 *** ajaykools has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T13:15:03 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-07-30T14:55:49 *** ecthiender has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T15:00:27 arvind_khadri, can you help me with something? 2012-07-30T15:00:38 ecthiender, shoot 2012-07-30T15:01:29 arvind_khadri, if I use the gdata api to access and modify hashcube's "google sites", do I need to create an app to do that? or can I use some already existing login credentials? 2012-07-30T15:01:51 arvind_khadri, I have this resource but I cant quite understand it: https://developers.google.com/google-apps/sites/docs/1.0/developers_guide_python 2012-07-30T15:01:52 Title: Python Language Guide - Google Apps Platform Google Developers (at developers.google.com) 2012-07-30T15:02:26 arvind_khadri, and what kind of app should I create? should be like any app on google app engine? 2012-07-30T15:03:10 ecthiender, you would want to register the app, if you want everyone in hashcube to access it. Google app engine is not really needed, you can run it in your server 2012-07-30T15:04:23 arvind_khadri, umm no human is going to access it. the idea is whenever we do a release, a post release script should update some releaselogs in the google sites. so what should be the correct way of doing it/ 2012-07-30T15:04:25 ? 2012-07-30T15:04:59 ecthiender, then write a git hook with the credentials, which will edit the page 2012-07-30T15:05:29 arvind_khadri, like raw editing? parsing the html and stuff? rather I can use the API right? 2012-07-30T15:05:50 arvind_khadri, or you mean using the API? 2012-07-30T15:06:10 using API ecthiender 2012-07-30T15:06:46 ecthiender, ^ 2012-07-30T15:11:49 arvind_khadri, but the docs says you need to have an app. I dont understand that. 2012-07-30T15:12:01 ecthiender, bullshit 2012-07-30T15:12:19 ecthiender, you just code man 2012-07-30T15:12:34 *** ajay_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-07-30T15:13:02 arvind_khadri, I dont know what method to use to just use login credentials to login. the methods I know ask for a key 2012-07-30T15:13:34 ecthiender, wait man 2012-07-30T15:13:49 arvind_khadri, see this link: https://developers.google.com/google-apps/sites/docs/1.0/developers_guide_python 2012-07-30T15:13:50 Title: Python Language Guide - Google Apps Platform Google Developers (at developers.google.com) 2012-07-30T15:17:14 ecthiender, https://github.com/arvindkhadri/alipi/blob/master/wsgi/test.wsgi#L85 2012-07-30T15:17:15 Title: alipi/wsgi/test.wsgi at master · arvindkhadri/alipi · GitHub (at github.com) 2012-07-30T15:18:27 arvind_khadri, what is that blogger_service.source = 'Servelots-alipi-1.0'? 2012-07-30T15:18:48 ecthiender, that is a name, set it to any crap you want to :) 2012-07-30T15:19:03 arvind_khadri, oh ok :) I was pulling my hair out for that!!! 2012-07-30T15:19:20 ecthiender, their doc is horrible 2012-07-30T15:19:33 arvind_khadri, absolutely freaking horrible!! 2012-07-30T15:23:42 ecthiender, you guys have a google site? 2012-07-30T15:23:49 arvind_khadri, yeah 2012-07-30T15:25:12 ecthiender, import gdata.sites 2012-07-30T15:25:31 ecthiender, heading hom 2012-07-30T15:25:34 *home 2012-07-30T15:25:39 arvind_khadri, wait a sec 2012-07-30T15:25:40 !! 2012-07-30T15:25:46 ecthiender, ok :) 2012-07-30T15:25:51 arvind_khadri, see I got this: http://www.pastebay.net/1069503 2012-07-30T15:25:52 Title: PasteBay.com - Free uncensored text hosting (at www.pastebay.net) 2012-07-30T15:26:22 *** pradi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-07-30T15:26:42 arvind_khadri, any idea? 2012-07-30T15:30:05 https://developers.google.com/google-apps/sites/docs/1.0/developers_guide_python#SiteFeed 2012-07-30T15:30:06 Title: Python Language Guide - Google Apps Platform Google Developers (at developers.google.com) 2012-07-30T15:30:08 ecthiender, use that 2012-07-30T15:30:47 arvind_khadri, instead of programmaticLogin ? 2012-07-30T15:30:54 ecthiender, yes 2012-07-30T15:31:29 arvind_khadri, AttributeError: 'GDataService' object has no attribute 'GetSiteFeed' 2012-07-30T15:32:05 arvind_khadri, actually I did not use gdata.sites.client nor gdata.sites.data. I used gdata.service 2012-07-30T15:32:36 that GetSiteFeed is inside gdata.sites package and not in gdata.service. 2012-07-30T15:32:43 ecthiender, http://code.google.com/p/gdata-python-client/source/browse/samples/sites/sites_example.py 2012-07-30T15:32:44 Title: sites_example.py - gdata-python-client - Google Data APIs Python Client Library - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com) 2012-07-30T15:32:47 that should help 2012-07-30T15:33:12 arvind_khadri, I have that code! but that uses an existing app. anyway, I'll try to dig into it. you carry on 2012-07-30T15:40:18 ecthiender, hmm 2012-07-30T15:41:23 arvind_khadri, not heading home? 2012-07-30T15:41:39 ecthiender, I had to go to a doc actually 2012-07-30T15:41:46 the clinic will be closed now 2012-07-30T15:41:51 arvind_khadri, why? what happened? 2012-07-30T15:42:00 arvind_khadri, oh shit! did I delay you? 2012-07-30T15:42:07 ecthiender, naah not you :) 2012-07-30T15:42:17 The intern was also asking me something 2012-07-30T15:42:22 it is fine, will go tomorrow 2012-07-30T15:42:51 ecthiender, I used that kind of code to make my contacts thing work 2012-07-30T15:43:07 arvind_khadri, hmm 2012-07-30T15:48:09 *** pradi has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T16:36:14 *** pradi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-07-30T16:38:23 *** pradi has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T16:40:46 *** pradi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-07-30T16:42:24 *** pradi has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T16:48:14 *** pradi has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-07-30T17:21:56 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2012-07-30T17:25:27 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-07-30T18:09:16 *** ecthiender has joined #amclug 2012-07-30T19:39:57 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Quit: gotta go)