2012-08-21T06:52:28 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2012-08-21T07:33:08 *** arvind_khadri has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T08:45:45 *** ecthiender has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T08:51:08 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-08-21T08:53:09 *** ecthiender has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T08:54:05 ecthiender, bonjour 2012-08-21T08:54:35 arvind_khadri, whats up? 2012-08-21T08:54:40 arvind_khadri, how was Hyd? 2012-08-21T08:54:54 ecthiender, Hyd was good :) Got some funds from there 2012-08-21T08:55:00 3L per month 2012-08-21T08:55:01 arvind_khadri, cool :) 2012-08-21T08:55:10 you seem to be bringing good luck!! :D 2012-08-21T08:55:41 ecthiender, barcamp this Saturday 2012-08-21T08:56:05 arvind_khadri, nice :) what for? vlabs? 2012-08-21T08:56:18 ecthiender, no, for another project on maps 2012-08-21T08:56:30 http://www.pranavmistry.com/projects/tapuma/ 2012-08-21T08:56:44 arvind_khadri, hmm. so everyone's happy around? 2012-08-21T08:57:05 ecthiender, yes :) We are waiting for you man 2012-08-21T08:57:26 arvind_khadri, coming through, at the turn of this month. 2012-08-21T08:57:38 ecthiender, feels so distant 2012-08-21T08:57:39 :) 2012-08-21T08:57:42 arvind_khadri, its a project by pranav mistry 2012-08-21T08:57:49 arvind_khadri, what? the turn of the month? 2012-08-21T08:58:26 ecthiender, yes the turn of month. Ya, so we want to be able to do something similar in another year as Mistry 2012-08-21T08:59:04 arvind_khadri, the link says he has a prototype. 2012-08-21T08:59:16 ecthiender, it is being used in MIT 2012-08-21T08:59:26 students there can use it ecthiender :) 2012-08-21T08:59:26 arvind_khadri, cant we build on that? or someone else is already working on it? 2012-08-21T08:59:42 arvind_khadri, so whats the point we have? what are we going to make? 2012-08-21T09:00:06 ecthiender, it is for nomad shepherds and to build some local knowledge for them. 2012-08-21T09:00:50 arvind_khadri, so who asked to do this? 2012-08-21T09:01:04 ecthiender, the guy who is paying the funds 2012-08-21T09:01:20 arvind_khadri, so he doesn't have any write up about it? 2012-08-21T09:01:41 ecthiender, no, have not asked for one. Maybe I will ask Dinesh to write something 2012-08-21T09:01:52 but that project by Mistry is fucking awesome :) 2012-08-21T09:02:13 And I also love that guy. He is a stroke of a genius. 2012-08-21T09:02:57 arvind_khadri, absolutely!! for a moment I was thinking that we are going to work on Mistry's project! I was like wtf!! 2012-08-21T09:03:12 ecthiender, we can :) 2012-08-21T09:03:12 arvind_khadri, then you told me we want to make something 'like' that 2012-08-21T09:12:20 arvind_khadri, how can we? 2012-08-21T09:12:36 arvind_khadri, you mean we can work on the mistry's project directly? 2012-08-21T09:13:45 ecthiender, maybe we will take the prototype and do something. Have to talk to Dinesh about it 2012-08-21T09:13:48 arvind_khadri, the page was last update in 2007. what happened after that? 2012-08-21T09:14:18 arvind_khadri, there is not a single link on that page 2012-08-21T09:14:28 ecthiender, ya.. will have to mail him 2012-08-21T09:31:05 *** abhinav_singh has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T09:36:57 arvind_khadri, you remember telling me about some project on Xen? 2012-08-21T09:37:08 arvind_khadri, that you guys wanted to do. 2012-08-21T09:37:14 ecthiender, yes 2012-08-21T09:37:18 I wanted to do that 2012-08-21T09:37:25 arvind_khadri, what was that again? I forgot :P 2012-08-21T09:37:45 but then I later found out that it was implemented. Hot plugging on VMs for high availability 2012-08-21T09:38:11 arvind_khadri, hmm 2012-08-21T09:38:38 arvind_khadri, now I remember. I didnt know all cloud service providers run Xen! 2012-08-21T09:38:52 ecthiender, :) 2012-08-21T09:52:37 *** ajay_ has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T10:42:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o arvind_khadri 2012-08-21T10:44:51 *** arvind_khadri changes topic to "Welcome to the hacker's abode of AMC. | Free and Open source software only. | Nothing is offtopic other than Windows. | Flip bits not burgers. | All for one, one for all. | California sunlight, sweet Calcutta rain Honolulu Starbright - the song remains the same." 2012-08-21T10:45:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: -o arvind_khadri 2012-08-21T10:45:10 ecthiender, /topic 2012-08-21T11:00:30 arvind_khadri, :) 2012-08-21T11:00:55 ecthiender, just love the song and lyrics 2012-08-21T11:01:56 arvind_khadri, I know :) when I heard for the first time even I tripped a lot on the lyrics. Although I think there should be a fullstop or comma after Calcutta rain 2012-08-21T11:02:13 in the topic? 2012-08-21T11:02:16 yeah 2012-08-21T11:02:28 yes, there is a new line, but I removed it 2012-08-21T11:02:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o arvind_khadri 2012-08-21T11:02:41 end all the imageries with comma 2012-08-21T11:02:56 California sunlight, sweet Calcutta rain, Honolulu Starbright, the song remains the same. 2012-08-21T11:02:58 arvind_khadri, ^ 2012-08-21T11:03:02 *** arvind_khadri changes topic to "Welcome to the hacker's abode of AMC. | Free and Open source software only. | Nothing is offtopic other than Windows. | Flip bits not burgers. | All for one, one for all. | California sunlight, sweet Calcutta rain, Honolulu Starbright, the song remains the same." 2012-08-21T11:03:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: -o arvind_khadri 2012-08-21T11:03:08 arvind_khadri, :) 2012-08-21T11:17:24 arvind_khadri, who is trifolio6? a client? 2012-08-21T11:17:32 arvind_khadri, what is the bug? 2012-08-21T11:18:19 ecthiender, good that you asked. He has a page on which alipi loads, but does not work. Can you see that? 2012-08-21T11:19:11 ecthiender, http://www.saberlibre.net/mallorcaweb/rene/svg/fsmap-tra-en-cl-alipi.html 2012-08-21T11:19:12 Title: Free software concept map translation with Apili re-narration system (at www.saberlibre.net) 2012-08-21T11:22:12 arvind_khadri, the editor does not load? is that the problem? 2012-08-21T11:22:25 ecthiender, yes 2012-08-21T11:22:52 ecthiender, also the elements don't respond. When you click on text/image an option popup comes 2012-08-21T11:23:27 arvind_khadri, what about the other code? as in the code that resides in dev.a11y.in?? is that also broken? 2012-08-21T11:24:16 arvind_khadri, how come this works and that does not? do you have different code base? 2012-08-21T11:27:10 ecthiender, did you check with dev? This code loads directly from y.a11y.in 2012-08-21T11:27:20 arvind_khadri, yes 2012-08-21T11:27:28 arvind_khadri, yeah just found out 2012-08-21T11:27:30 I have not done any checking, I have been held up with other things. 2012-08-21T11:27:37 ecthiender, so the dev thing works? 2012-08-21T11:27:42 arvind_khadri, yeah 2012-08-21T11:28:28 arvind_khadri, I have no idea how to even begin debugging this. 2012-08-21T11:29:13 ecthiender, :) you will have to spend few days with me and maybe get a clean dev and production env 2012-08-21T11:29:23 s/you/we/ 2012-08-21T11:29:24 What arvind_khadri meant to say was: ecthiender, :) we will have to spend few days with me and maybe get a clean dev and production env 2012-08-21T11:29:37 arvind_khadri, yes. absolutely 2012-08-21T11:29:46 arvind_khadri, and probably redo the client code. 2012-08-21T11:29:52 *probably* 2012-08-21T11:30:20 ecthiender, reorg than redo I guess 2012-08-21T11:30:58 arvind_khadri, yeah we will come to know when we dig through it. 2012-08-21T11:31:19 ecthiender, hmm, are you ok with using Dinesh's laptop for a while? 2012-08-21T11:31:37 arvind_khadri, havent thought about it much 2012-08-21T11:32:01 arvind_khadri, but the problem is of setting up, and then resetting another machine again 2012-08-21T11:32:10 ecthiender, ya 2012-08-21T11:32:11 s/resetting/resetting up/ 2012-08-21T11:32:12 What ecthiender meant to say was: arvind_khadri, but the problem is of setting up, and then resetting up another machine again 2012-08-21T11:39:36 ecthiender, firefox or chromium? 2012-08-21T11:39:45 does not work with firefox on dev too 2012-08-21T11:39:49 arvind_khadri, chromium 2012-08-21T11:42:00 ecthiender, does not work for me on both 2012-08-21T11:42:17 arvind_khadri, the dev one? 2012-08-21T11:42:23 ecthiender, yes 2012-08-21T11:42:30 arvind_khadri, good :) 2012-08-21T11:42:50 ecthiender, you mean to say at least there is uniformity in not working :P 2012-08-21T11:43:02 * arvind_khadri kicks ecthiender 2012-08-21T11:43:05 arvind_khadri, yeah :) 2012-08-21T11:43:23 ,lart ecthiender for being so "helpful" 2012-08-21T11:43:23 * alipi_not pokes ecthiender in the eye for being so helpful 2012-08-21T11:43:28 :P 2012-08-21T11:46:12 arvind_khadri, you did not come yesterday 2012-08-21T11:46:36 ecthiender, ya. Went to laxmi 2012-08-21T11:47:43 arvind_khadri, with? 2012-08-21T11:47:55 ecthiender, rakendu and arjun 2012-08-21T11:48:00 arvind_khadri, oh ok 2012-08-21T11:48:49 ecthiender, tell me wtf should I do to debug that problem :) 2012-08-21T11:50:16 arvind_khadri, does it work in your local machine? with the local setup and the same code? 2012-08-21T11:52:33 arvind_khadri, ^ 2012-08-21T11:52:42 ecthiender, no.. 2012-08-21T11:53:51 arvind_khadri, basically the events are not firing. put some console logs in the appropriate functions and see if they are getting called. 2012-08-21T11:54:11 ecthiender, I want to first stop scripts loading from y 2012-08-21T11:54:43 arvind_khadri, thats a different problem. first decide which problem you want to solve. 2012-08-21T11:55:47 ecthiender, :P if I load the page from local, it will still call y.a11y.in, so events triggered will be caught at various levels 2012-08-21T11:56:18 arvind_khadri, no man. I am talking about events in the JS code 2012-08-21T11:56:38 arvind_khadri, "events triggered will be caught at various levels" -> didnt get you 2012-08-21T11:57:16 ecthiender, event listener will be registered from y.a11y and also my local machine. So I don't know where the event will be caught 2012-08-21T11:58:13 ecthiender, oh no it is ok. I solved that problem already :) I look up the domain and load the code 2012-08-21T11:58:13 arvind_khadri, arey wherever you load it from doesnot matter. just put some console logs in functions and see if they are getting called 2012-08-21T12:04:38 ecthiender, http://barcampbangalore.org/bcb/bcb12/javascript-engine-internals 2012-08-21T12:04:39 Title: Barcamp Bangalore 12 | JavaScript Engine Internals (at barcampbangalore.org) 2012-08-21T12:05:09 arvind_khadri, Im attending that. look at the list of ppl who are attending 2012-08-21T12:05:47 ecthiender, 85 ppl are :P I couldn't find yours 2012-08-21T12:06:01 ecthiender, heading out. Will be back in a while 2012-08-21T12:06:02 arvind_khadri, ok 2012-08-21T12:06:06 arvind_khadri, ok 2012-08-21T12:36:51 ecthiender, back 2012-08-21T12:39:29 *** abhinav_singh has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-08-21T12:41:09 *** abhinav_singh has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T12:42:36 ecthiender, the events are not being captured 2012-08-21T12:43:06 arvind_khadri, so thats the problem. now we have to find out why. :P 2012-08-21T12:46:13 ecthiender, http://nopaste.dk/p13944 2012-08-21T12:46:15 Title: Pastebin - Nopaste - Paste - easy sharing of text and codes (at nopaste.dk) 2012-08-21T12:46:19 that returns undefined 2012-08-21T12:46:33 the code block may not be properly closed in the paste 2012-08-21T12:47:18 arvind_khadri, does it have a catch block? 2012-08-21T12:47:25 ecthiender, yes 2012-08-21T12:47:44 arvind_khadri, is it executing the catch block/ 2012-08-21T12:47:45 ? 2012-08-21T12:47:48 ecthiender, will check 2012-08-21T12:49:27 arvind_khadri, xen or kvm?? 2012-08-21T12:49:48 ecthiender, what is the need? 2012-08-21T12:50:11 arvind_khadri, no need. just curiosity. 2012-08-21T12:50:42 arvind_khadri, probably install to experiment. but dont yet know what experiments to do 2012-08-21T12:51:44 ecthiender, xen is a hypervisor in the sense that it is bare metal, and it will let you run things on top of it. kvm is "kernel virtual machine", so you would need a kernel, say linux for that 2012-08-21T12:52:05 arvind_khadri, kvm is also a type-1 hypervisor 2012-08-21T12:52:12 I would go with xen. It is way powerful, and I think has a better community support 2012-08-21T12:52:50 arvind_khadri, but community says xen has some drawbacks and kvm wins in benchmarks. 2012-08-21T12:53:24 ecthiender, but do those really matter to you? I would say no, unless you are doing some kind of profiling 2012-08-21T12:53:57 arvind_khadri, not really. but I am trying to have a perspective :P 2012-08-21T12:54:16 arvind_khadri, http://serverfault.com/questions/41972/xen-vs-kvm-in-performance 2012-08-21T12:54:17 Title: Xen vs KVM in performance - Server Fault (at serverfault.com) 2012-08-21T12:55:55 arvind_khadri, kvm is "kernel-based virtual machine". so kvm uses the kernel as the hypervisor. while xen has written their own hypervisor, with device drivers taken from the kernel 2012-08-21T12:56:14 kernel is "The Kernel" 2012-08-21T12:56:20 ecthiender, yes :) 2012-08-21T12:56:23 our beloved 2012-08-21T12:56:39 arvind_khadri, so apparently kvm is better :P 2012-08-21T12:57:12 ecthiender, In some cases yes. The post was made in 09. Things would have changed a lot by now 2012-08-21T12:57:51 ecthiender, qemu uses kvm 2012-08-21T12:59:47 ecthiender, http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2011/11/29/baremetal-vs-xen-vs-kvm-redux/ 2012-08-21T12:59:48 Title: Baremetal vs. Xen vs. KVM Redux blog.xen.org (at blog.xen.org) 2012-08-21T13:00:13 arvind_khadri, thats a blog from xen blogs 2012-08-21T13:00:43 with test results and link to linux patch 2012-08-21T13:03:02 arvind_khadri, http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/03/msg01942.html 2012-08-21T13:03:03 Title: Re: Xen vs KVM (at lists.debian.org) 2012-08-21T13:04:44 ecthiender, so there you got your answer :) 2012-08-21T13:05:14 arvind_khadri, you mean this: "I see no reason to even consider xen."? 2012-08-21T13:05:23 ecthiender, ya :) 2012-08-21T13:05:30 arvind_khadri, hm 2012-08-21T13:05:49 ecthiender, but I would not go until I try them both myself 2012-08-21T13:05:59 I have used Xen, and I use it here in office too 2012-08-21T13:08:58 arvind_khadri, yeah. thats a valid point. 2012-08-21T13:09:30 arvind_khadri, I am wondering can I use one of them on the desktop that is there at home at run several OSes on it 2012-08-21T13:09:40 s/at/and/ 2012-08-21T13:09:41 What ecthiender meant to say was: arvind_khadri, I am wondering can I use one of them on the desktop thand is there at home at run several OSes on it 2012-08-21T13:09:53 ecthiender, anyway. The fucking catch block is not executed. There is no exception per say 2012-08-21T13:10:02 ecthiender, try both 2012-08-21T13:11:10 arvind_khadri, okay put console.log(this), one outside the try block and one inside the try block 2012-08-21T13:11:23 arvind_khadri, and tell me what this is refering to? 2012-08-21T13:11:37 ecthiender, doing the same 2012-08-21T13:11:54 ok 2012-08-21T13:13:08 ecthiender, the if block is not being evaluated for that page 2012-08-21T13:13:37 arvind_khadri, so that means the if condition fails 2012-08-21T13:14:00 arvind_khadri, what is this btw? I dont have any idea. and it'll be good to have some 2012-08-21T13:14:07 s/this/'this'/ 2012-08-21T13:14:08 What ecthiender meant to say was: arvind_khadri, what is 'this' btw? I dont have any idea. and it'll be good to have some 2012-08-21T13:15:13 ecthiender, and I know why it fails :) because the condition has been written for pages parsed from the server. 'this' is the element here. We look up for elements with those attributes and attach a event listener for them 2012-08-21T13:16:28 ecthiender, the condition seems to be fine, when I evaluate it manauly 2012-08-21T13:16:36 s/manauly/manually/ 2012-08-21T13:16:37 What arvind_khadri meant to say was: ecthiender, the condition seems to be fine, when I evaluate it manually 2012-08-21T13:18:47 arvind_khadri, so probably when the condition is checked, the elements dont have those "values" 2012-08-21T13:19:32 arvind_khadri, console.log this ($(this).hasClass('alipi') 2012-08-21T13:20:09 arvind_khadri, oh okay :) 2012-08-21T13:20:25 arvind_khadri, so this page is not parsed from the server?? 2012-08-21T13:20:38 ecthiender, no. 2012-08-21T13:20:47 arvind_khadri, hmm. there you go then :) 2012-08-21T13:21:02 arvind_khadri, why this non-uniformity? :P 2012-08-21T13:21:36 ecthiender, I am not sure of the problem yet. 2012-08-21T13:46:55 arvind_khadri, so did you find out? 2012-08-21T13:47:49 ecthiender, no nt yt 2012-08-21T13:53:57 okay 2012-08-21T14:11:57 *** abhinav_singh has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-08-21T15:35:14 *** ecthiender_ has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T15:35:50 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2012-08-21T15:35:54 *** ecthiender_ is now known as ecthiender 2012-08-21T15:36:00 arvind_khadri, wassup? 2012-08-21T15:37:51 *** abhinav_singh has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T15:44:02 arvind_khadri, house for rent in banshankari? 2012-08-21T15:44:12 arvind_khadri, good idea? what are the rates? 2012-08-21T15:45:00 ecthiender, ?? 2012-08-21T15:45:04 ecthiender, for you?? 2012-08-21T15:45:08 arvind_khadri, no for abhinav_singh 2012-08-21T15:45:26 abhinav_singh, single or double? 2012-08-21T15:45:46 1 bhk arvind_khadri 2012-08-21T15:46:16 abhinav_singh, 6-7 2012-08-21T15:46:55 okay ..in which are do you love arvind_khadri ? 2012-08-21T15:46:58 arvind_khadri, hows the area? 2012-08-21T15:47:09 %s/love/live/gc 2012-08-21T15:47:13 s/love/live/ 2012-08-21T15:47:15 What ecthiender meant to say was: our belived 2012-08-21T15:47:23 ecthiender, :P 2012-08-21T15:47:33 ecthiender, area is good enough :) 2012-08-21T15:47:46 arvind_khadri, in banshankari which stage? 2012-08-21T15:47:51 abhinav_singh, I stay in ISRO layout. There it will be the same 2012-08-21T15:47:56 ecthiender, 2nd and 3rd 2012-08-21T15:53:18 arvind_khadri, what is that place where there are lot of apartments? it comes while going towards basvangudi from banshankari bus terminus? 2012-08-21T15:53:34 s/lot/quite a few/ 2012-08-21T15:53:35 What ecthiender meant to say was: arvind_khadri, what is that place where there are quite a few of apartments? it comes while going towards basvangudi from banshankari bus terminus? 2012-08-21T15:56:46 arvind_khadri, http://wernah.com/2012/03/i-fucking-google-everything/ 2012-08-21T15:56:50 Title: I Fucking Google Everything | Daniel Wearne (at wernah.com) 2012-08-21T15:56:51 abhinav_singh, http://wernah.com/2012/03/i-fucking-google-everything/ 2012-08-21T15:59:18 http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/18/oracle-makes-more-moves-to-kill-open-source-mysql/ ecthiender 2012-08-21T15:59:19 Title: Oracle Makes More Moves To Kill Open Source MySQL | TechCrunch (at techcrunch.com) 2012-08-21T16:16:28 ecthiender, there are many. Any other landmark 2012-08-21T16:25:37 *** abhinav_singh has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-08-21T16:33:25 ecthiender, there?? 2012-08-21T16:34:22 arvind_khadri, tell fast. leaving 2012-08-21T16:34:31 ecthiender, can I call? 2012-08-21T16:34:44 arvind_khadri, sure. after 2 mins. :) 2012-08-21T16:34:54 ecthiender, ok :) 2012-08-21T16:39:07 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-08-21T16:47:11 *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-08-21T16:51:29 *** ajay_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-08-21T18:36:24 *** arvind_khadri has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T19:04:01 *** ecthiender has joined #amclug 2012-08-21T21:10:21 *** ecthiender has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)