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2012-12-11T08:25:44  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, wassup
2012-12-11T08:25:59  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, learning blender.
2012-12-11T08:26:07  <ecthiender> coffee/tea arvind_khadri ?
2012-12-11T08:26:21  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, lets go.  Nice that you fixed the controls :)
2012-12-11T08:26:51  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, it was just a min work. so decided not procrastinate on that.
2012-12-11T08:27:02  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, hmmm
2012-12-11T08:27:44  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, ok, lets go.
2012-12-11T08:28:06  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, yeah
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2012-12-11T08:49:09  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, dont worry about moving the mouse control code in that FirstPersonControls.
2012-12-11T08:49:17  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, we can do that later.
2012-12-11T08:49:35  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, thats low proirity
2012-12-11T08:50:16  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, no am not thinking of that now :) Was thinking what can I do? I was thinking, of putting up the structure of books into etherpad, and then put some books in a db.
2012-12-11T08:50:34  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, yeah
2012-12-11T08:51:19  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, maybe you can also think about the maraa thing a bit.if you can. what dinesh said that day about the structure, and try to incorporate those things.
2012-12-11T08:51:40  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, sure, so what is up with taffy?
2012-12-11T08:51:57  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, how long will the book thing take?
2012-12-11T08:52:04  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, what do you mean?
2012-12-11T08:52:48  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, do we use taffy?
2012-12-11T08:53:14  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, we dont need to right away. we can start using it when we need it?
2012-12-11T08:53:31  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, what goes into the book structure? the ISBN code, author etc. right?
2012-12-11T08:53:58  <arvind_khadri> the book thing will take half a day.  Yes. I will put up the structure on etherpad in sometime and share it with you.
2012-12-11T08:54:04  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, lets just store it in a variable for the time being.
2012-12-11T08:54:09  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, umm really?
2012-12-11T08:54:17  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, why half a day?
2012-12-11T08:54:30  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, half a day including putting books into db
2012-12-11T08:54:43  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, we dont need the db!!!!
2012-12-11T08:54:53  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, we take such overhead now?
2012-12-11T08:55:03  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, a db as in a json structure.
2012-12-11T08:56:29  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, check out this https://pad.riseup.net/p/book-structure
2012-12-11T08:56:31  <alipi_not> Title: pad.riseup.net (at pad.riseup.net)
2012-12-11T09:06:19  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, http://mosh.mit.edu/
2012-12-11T09:06:20  <alipi_not> Title: Mosh: the mobile shell (at mosh.mit.edu)
2012-12-11T09:07:57  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, nice
2012-12-11T09:17:46  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, can you check j.mp/3dwalk
2012-12-11T09:18:02  <arvind_khadri> I have pulled the changes
2012-12-11T09:18:48  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, works!! :)
2012-12-11T09:18:54  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, cool :)
2012-12-11T09:19:59  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, have installed mosh on x3
2012-12-11T09:20:07  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, cool.
2012-12-11T09:20:32  <arvind_khadri> you need to install it on your machine and then do mosh user@foo
2012-12-11T09:23:52  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, so foo here will be the ip?
2012-12-11T09:24:00  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, yes
2012-12-11T09:24:36  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, I have created a name in my /etc/hosts for x3
2012-12-11T09:25:37  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh cool !
2012-12-11T09:31:10  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, using mosh :)
2012-12-11T09:31:27  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, cool, am reading up backbone :)
2012-12-11T09:31:48  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, nice.
2012-12-11T09:49:25  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, lunch?
2012-12-11T09:49:41  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, am thinking of going out for lunch
2012-12-11T09:49:53  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, why? what happened?
2012-12-11T09:50:14  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, rohit was telling that there is bisi bele bath upstairs.
2012-12-11T09:50:19  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, so?
2012-12-11T09:50:27  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh you dont like it?
2012-12-11T09:50:41  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, not much :)
2012-12-11T09:50:53  <arvind_khadri> so you go eat :)
2012-12-11T09:51:04  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, yeah
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2012-12-11T11:58:57  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, image, text and video become a collection.  A collection can have multiple models
2012-12-11T11:59:06  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, yeah true.
2012-12-11T11:59:27  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, but how does that help in abstracting image, video and audio as media?
2012-12-11T11:59:39  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, collection is just and array of models.
2012-12-11T11:59:54  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, like if Page is a model, Pages of a website can be a collection.
2012-12-11T12:00:08  <ecthiender> s/just and/just an/
2012-12-11T12:02:06  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, read that, http://backbonejs.org/#Collection.
2012-12-11T12:02:07  <alipi_not> Title: Backbone.js (at backbonejs.org)
2012-12-11T12:02:28  <arvind_khadri> in a collection, on an event, you can send it to the model you want.
2012-12-11T12:05:43  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, okay. but does that help us in abstracting audio, video and image as media?
2012-12-11T12:06:12  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, I think, not clear how.  Will think and tell
2012-12-11T12:06:57  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, with my backbone experience, I can tell these are not collections really.
2012-12-11T12:07:21  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, you should look at some example code in how collections are used.
2012-12-11T12:07:35  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, oh ok.
2012-12-11T12:07:41  <arvind_khadri> will do that.
2012-12-11T12:08:57  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, the simplest example a TODO app. each TODO item is a model. the entire list is a collection. when you want to delete a particular item from the list, thats when the whole collection to model events come up.
2012-12-11T12:09:38  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh I just realized :) A collection can have only model.
2012-12-11T12:09:54  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, it just holds an array of the model instances.
2012-12-11T12:10:05  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, oh ok :)
2012-12-11T12:10:08  <ecthiender> s/only/only one/
2012-12-11T12:15:48  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, you can ask or clarify your doubts at #documentcloud
2012-12-11T12:15:56  <ecthiender> about backbone or underscore
2012-12-11T12:16:24  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, I understood what you told.  I misunderstood what they meant by models in collection.
2012-12-11T12:16:53  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, yeah. I was just saying thats the IRC channel for these folks!
2012-12-11T12:17:14  <arvind_khadri> ok :)
2012-12-11T12:48:27  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, can you play dignity by bob dylan from the unplugged album. please :P
2012-12-11T12:48:41  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, amazing song :)
2012-12-11T12:48:43  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, after this :)
2012-12-11T14:36:44  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, I am only being able to import the model into our application. but not being able to import texture/material and lighting information associated with it.
2012-12-11T14:37:12  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh. I am only exporting the model :P
2012-12-11T14:37:19  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, that will come with the scene
2012-12-11T14:37:33  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, so we only have to set the lighting info. or we can export the entire scene. exactly.
2012-12-11T14:38:24  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, lets put maraa on hold now. can me, you and rahul sit tomorrow and start creating a scene?
2012-12-11T14:40:39  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, ok :)
2012-12-11T14:40:49  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, what do you think?
2012-12-11T14:41:30  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, Sounds good.
2012-12-11T14:46:04  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, is blender running on your machine?
2012-12-11T14:46:15  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, yes it is
2012-12-11T14:46:22  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, and rendering?
2012-12-11T14:46:32  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, renders too.
2012-12-11T14:46:54  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, thats the beauty of good applications. its just that webgl needs dedicated graphics. that too only nvidia and ati cards work.
2012-12-11T14:47:10  <arvind_khadri> :)
2012-12-11T14:47:16  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, your cpu is powerful enough for doing simple graphics stuff.
2012-12-11T14:47:57  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, yes it is, but is just not fast enough because of other tasks.
2012-12-11T14:48:24  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, hmm. thats there.
2012-12-11T14:49:10  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/wiki/GUI-Tools-with-Three.js
2012-12-11T14:49:11  <alipi_not> Title: GUI Tools with Three.js · mrdoob/three.js Wiki · GitHub (at github.com)
2012-12-11T14:53:30  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, nice tools
2012-12-11T14:53:37  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, yeah!
2012-12-11T14:56:51  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, http://www.fullstackoptimization.com/box2d-jquery/
2012-12-11T14:56:52  <alipi_not> Title: box2d-jquery by fullstackoptimization.com (at www.fullstackoptimization.com)
2012-12-11T14:57:01  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, physics engine for the DOM
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