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2013-05-01T09:01:18  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, hey we have taken down bugzilla?
2013-05-01T09:01:47  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, yes, I will bring it up in a while.
2013-05-01T09:01:58  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, what happened?
2013-05-01T09:02:16  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, what are you doing now? looking at the server issues or working on sweets?
2013-05-01T09:02:38  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, there was a config file which was deleted. I am working on alipi.
2013-05-01T09:02:54  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh okay.
2013-05-01T09:03:04  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, alipi ? for any demo?
2013-05-01T09:03:21  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, no, just cleaning up the API
2013-05-01T09:03:30  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, okay
2013-05-01T09:11:11  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, oh and I forgot to tell you one thing, my sister took up CS for her 11th and 12th and guess what they have changed the syllabus to include python!
2013-05-01T09:11:22  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, amazing :)
2013-05-01T09:11:24  <ecthiender> so now they have to study both C++ and python
2013-05-01T09:11:25  <arvind_khadri> really cool
2013-05-01T09:11:33  <arvind_khadri> :)
2013-05-01T09:11:41  <ecthiender> yeah. really nice
2013-05-01T09:30:23  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, did you look at Heka?
2013-05-01T09:30:31  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, yes :)
2013-05-01T09:30:37  <arvind_khadri> wanted to ask you the same
2013-05-01T09:30:43  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, shall we use that?
2013-05-01T09:30:49  <arvind_khadri> ya
2013-05-01T09:33:02  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, okay. we need to sit and discuss and finalize how we manage the server. come up with some practices and policies.
2013-05-01T09:34:01  <ecthiender> and use some automated tool to do continuous monitoring, and we can say set up a monitor in the office which, say, just shows the dashboard of Heka
2013-05-01T09:35:39  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, shall we go with trac? it has source code browser, roadmaps, timeline( to see what is getting done each day), issue tracker and integrated wiki.
2013-05-01T09:36:15  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, hmmm ya, trac is nice
2013-05-01T09:36:56  <ecthiender> and the same guys also have a CI server called bitten, written in Python.
2013-05-01T09:37:10  <ecthiender> all the other popular CI servers are mostly written in Java!
2013-05-01T09:37:32  <arvind_khadri> :) cool, they also have git integration
2013-05-01T09:37:38  <ecthiender> yeah :)
2013-05-01T09:38:12  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/PluginList
2013-05-01T09:38:13  <alipi_not`> Title: PluginList – The Trac Project (at trac.edgewall.org)
2013-05-01T09:38:50  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, there is already Jenkins, Hudson and Maven integration
2013-05-01T09:39:12  <ecthiender> also you can use Doxygen or Pydoc :)
2013-05-01T09:39:29  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, amazing, lets use this then
2013-05-01T09:39:53  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, did you see this ? http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/PluginList#VideoCapturing :P
2013-05-01T09:39:54  <alipi_not`> Title: PluginList – The Trac Project (at trac.edgewall.org)
2013-05-01T09:40:01  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, ya :)
2013-05-01T09:40:13  <ecthiender> BugCam :)
2013-05-01T09:40:15  <arvind_khadri> that was my wtf for the day
2013-05-01T09:40:23  <ecthiender> ha ha :D
2013-05-01T09:40:33  <arvind_khadri> hey I was thinking we should do 5 bugs a day. :)
2013-05-01T09:40:59  <ecthiender> you mean fix 5 bugs a day?
2013-05-01T09:41:02  <arvind_khadri> you know that concept? 5 bugs a days, triage, squish, report and mark
2013-05-01T09:41:11  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, no
2013-05-01T09:41:17  <arvind_khadri> ya not just fix :)
2013-05-01T09:41:35  * ecthiender wants to know this new concept
2013-05-01T09:41:45  <arvind_khadri> this was started by Ubuntu community to encourage developers
2013-05-01T09:42:03  * ecthiender is listening, oops, reading
2013-05-01T09:42:18  <arvind_khadri> so everyday you commit to fix 5 bugs, triage 5 bugs, squish 5 bugs and report or mark 5 bugs
2013-05-01T09:42:50  <ecthiender> oh so all of them are conjugated by OR and not AND ! :P
2013-05-01T09:42:57  <ecthiender> so that makes sense.
2013-05-01T09:43:14  <arvind_khadri> all of them :)
2013-05-01T09:43:27  <arvind_khadri> there might be exceptions :)
2013-05-01T09:43:59  <arvind_khadri> That is fun I think and felt so
2013-05-01T09:44:07  <ecthiender> I mean you cant fix 5 bugs and triage 5 bugs and squish 5 bugs and report and mark 5 bugs. thats 25 a day!
2013-05-01T09:44:20  <ecthiender> *25 bugs
2013-05-01T09:44:31  <ecthiender> so they are conjugated by OR. hmm. nice idea.
2013-05-01T09:45:07  <arvind_khadri> you can, like 5 is not the minimum it is just a number
2013-05-01T09:45:13  <ecthiender> yeah
2013-05-01T09:45:19  <arvind_khadri> to I think encourage for doing more :)
2013-05-01T09:45:38  <ecthiender> right
2013-05-01T09:47:09  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, how about asking ranga, pradeep and bhanu to make a website like HN? Just a simple website where users can submit links and other users can comment on them.
2013-05-01T09:47:34  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, sounds good.. :)
2013-05-01T09:47:38  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, I was thinking this might be a good exercise for them to understand the backend, dbs, templates, ORMs etc.
2013-05-01T09:47:51  <arvind_khadri> then we can use it to be the news site for our office
2013-05-01T09:48:07  <arvind_khadri> yes, it is an amazing exercise
2013-05-01T09:48:37  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, yeah. so we can have a competition. the best website can get selected for the office news.
2013-05-01T09:49:20  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, because I think each of them should tackle the entire problem on their own.
2013-05-01T09:49:39  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, yes, then they can see what are the problems
2013-05-01T09:49:45  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, and not divide this simple problem among them.
2013-05-01T09:49:48  <ecthiender> yeah
2013-05-01T09:50:45  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, so each of them make a website and then we take the best and maybe those three only work on the best one to say polish it, make it production with our help and then we can deploy it.
2013-05-01T09:51:15  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, so that these guys also know what all do to make it production ready and how to deploy.
2013-05-01T09:51:26  <ecthiender> too long to read? :P
2013-05-01T09:51:28  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, ya, sounds good
2013-05-01T09:51:32  <ecthiender> :)
2013-05-01T09:51:42  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, no this is not TLDR; ;)
2013-05-01T09:54:55  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, read this? https://medium.com/what-i-learned-building/9216e1c9da7d
2013-05-01T09:54:56  <alipi_not`> Title: McDonald’s Theory — What I Learned Building… — Medium (at medium.com)
2013-05-01T09:55:08  <ecthiender> the McDonalds theory
2013-05-01T10:00:37  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, nice one :)
2013-05-01T10:00:56  <arvind_khadri> Lunch??
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2013-05-01T12:30:38  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, so what do I do now? setup trac? or work on Mouchak?
2013-05-01T12:30:53  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, trac first
2013-05-01T12:31:27  <arvind_khadri> as this will just be a one time thing, then later only mouchak or whatever :)
2013-05-01T12:32:12  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, okay.
2013-05-01T12:49:47  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, do we have a trac installation on the server?
2013-05-01T12:50:00  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, not anymore
2013-05-01T12:51:19  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, hmm
2013-05-01T12:52:23  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, although there is this /home/vamsi/working/pop/config/trac and this /home/vamsi/working/pop/code/Plugin-Trac
2013-05-01T12:52:24  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, there is one in /home/vamsi but I dont know what is the public facing url of it
2013-05-01T12:52:29  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, hmm
2013-05-01T12:52:30  <arvind_khadri> :)
2013-05-01T12:52:46  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, so I do a fresh install anyway
2013-05-01T12:52:47  <ecthiender> ?
2013-05-01T12:52:50  <arvind_khadri> yes
2013-05-01T12:52:54  <ecthiender> okay :)
2013-05-01T13:01:45  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, I will use mysql with trac?
2013-05-01T13:01:55  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, ya
2013-05-01T13:02:03  <ecthiender> they support postgres, sqlite and mysql
2013-05-01T13:02:17  <arvind_khadri> mysql, we know how to handle it.
2013-05-01T13:02:51  <ecthiender> okay
2013-05-01T13:09:29  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, should I do a pip install of trac and setup everything from there? or do I install the debain packages?
2013-05-01T13:10:15  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, pip install, and create a virtualenv for that
2013-05-01T13:10:15  <arvind_khadri> debian packages will have older versions
2013-05-01T13:10:40  <ecthiender> ok
2013-05-01T13:21:23  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, sujit is calling for a joint. wanna go?
2013-05-01T13:21:34  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, in sometime
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2013-05-01T14:37:54  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, there is already a directory called trac-environments in /vol/www. shall we use that?
2013-05-01T14:38:16  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, hmmm, yes we can..
2013-05-01T14:38:22  <arvind_khadri> what does it have?
2013-05-01T14:38:35  <ecthiender> pantoto-lite and pop
2013-05-01T14:38:39  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, ^
2013-05-01T14:38:55  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, oh ok
2013-05-01T14:39:12  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, or create a new directory?
2013-05-01T14:39:50  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, create a new one, I think, let the installation be clean
2013-05-01T14:39:57  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, right
2013-05-01T14:44:50  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, so how much is left for the trac thing to get over.
2013-05-01T14:45:01  * arvind_khadri is waiting to see a shiny new trac :)
2013-05-01T14:45:14  <ecthiender> arvind_khadri, some more time. say 30 mins to an hour.
2013-05-01T14:45:21  <arvind_khadri> ecthiender, aah ok :)
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