2014-06-02T00:01:42  <ecthiender> you know all these IITs and NITs etc are participating..and contributing labs..
2014-06-02T00:01:58  <ecthiender> but if you look at the quality..its all sub-standard
2014-06-02T00:02:23  <ecthiender> plus all technical incompatibilities possible..
2014-06-02T00:03:23  <baali> ecthiender: yeah its done for the name sake and sort of a check list....
2014-06-02T00:03:28  <ecthiender> and everyone refuses to co-operate after a certain degree..and even this institute..which is supposed to deliver a system and infrastructure to deploy and host these labs..works like a govt office..
2014-06-02T00:03:42  <ecthiender> anyway too much ranting now
2014-06-02T00:03:51  <baali> ecthiender: its hard to contain :P
2014-06-02T00:04:07  <baali> ecthiender: lets focus on "good" side!
2014-06-02T00:04:08  <baali> :P
2014-06-02T00:04:16  <ecthiender> yeah :P i know i know
2014-06-02T00:05:27  <ecthiender> and I was supposed to see how can we integrate sweets with the labs..but after I came here..the whole team was like we lack engineers in our team..so I have to work in the core team now..
2014-06-02T00:06:09  <baali> ecthiender: how are the people around?
2014-06-02T00:06:43  <ecthiender> baali, well okayish...I mean technically few people are really good..but personally okayish :P
2014-06-02T00:07:01  <baali> ecthiender: learn from them as much as you can :)
2014-06-02T00:07:08  <ecthiender> baali, yep
2014-06-02T00:07:12  <baali> that's the best I think you can get out from there
2014-06-02T00:08:38  <ecthiender> yeah I guess..
2014-06-02T00:09:02  <ecthiender> and few interesting collaborations as well..some of us here are trying to make a music lab as well..
2014-06-02T00:09:08  <ecthiender> so all in all not bad..
2014-06-02T00:09:50  <baali> ecthiender: aah nice :)
2014-06-02T00:10:57  <ecthiender> baali, and also I am hoping to get to an initial version of the basic tools for sweet web
2014-06-02T00:11:08  <ecthiender> baali, we all need it now :P
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2014-06-02T00:21:54  <zoso> ecthiender, ping
2014-06-02T00:22:03  <ecthiender> zoso, pong
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2014-06-02T00:22:35  <baali> and zoso "appeared"
2014-06-02T00:22:52  <ecthiender> baali, lol :D
2014-06-02T00:23:15  <ecthiender> and "disappeared"
2014-06-02T00:23:20  <baali> ecthiender: ping pong... doubt about this File object....
2014-06-02T00:23:40  <ecthiender> which one?
2014-06-02T00:23:46  <baali> how to create a file object and read it in javascipt?
2014-06-02T00:24:02  <baali> by not using the formal "input" method
2014-06-02T00:24:24  <ecthiender> baali, create a file object meaning? on the user's filesystem?
2014-06-02T00:24:28  <baali> but instead of passing name of file as an argument
2014-06-02T00:24:35  <baali> ecthiender: yeah
2014-06-02T00:25:31  <ecthiender> baali, as far as I know you can't create files from javascript running on a web page..
2014-06-02T00:26:00  <ecthiender> baali, if you are running from a plugin then you can I guess. but not from a javascript of a web page..you can *read* files thought
2014-06-02T00:26:05  <ecthiender> s/thought/though
2014-06-02T00:26:41  <ecthiender> thats upto my knowledge. do they have an API to create files now?
2014-06-02T00:27:31  <baali> yeah...
2014-06-02T00:27:41  <baali> HTML5 have fileReader and fileWriter etc
2014-06-02T00:27:59  <baali> http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/reading-files-using-the-html5-filereader-api ecthiender
2014-06-02T00:28:01  <alipi_not> Title: Reading Files Using The HTML5 FileReader API | Treehouse Blog (at blog.teamtreehouse.com)
2014-06-02T00:28:09  <ecthiender> baali, fileWriter?
2014-06-02T00:28:16  <baali> that also is there
2014-06-02T00:28:31  <ecthiender> baali, haven't heard that. I know about HTML5 fileReader APIs..interesting..
2014-06-02T00:31:02  <baali> ecthiender: http://www.w3.org/TR/file-writer-api/
2014-06-02T00:31:03  <alipi_not> Title: File API: Writer (at www.w3.org)
2014-06-02T00:32:11  <baali> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/file/filesystem/
2014-06-02T00:32:12  <alipi_not> Title: Exploring the FileSystem APIs - HTML5 Rocks (at www.html5rocks.com)
2014-06-02T00:32:37  <baali> ecthiender: damn it says this API spec is dead...
2014-06-02T00:33:13  <ecthiender> baali, the w3c document doesn't say much
2014-06-02T00:33:13  <ecthiender> yeah
2014-06-02T00:33:33  <baali> umm....
2014-06-02T00:33:54  <baali> so localstorage is only way to "store" things on user side?
2014-06-02T00:35:04  <ecthiender> baali, looks like
2014-06-02T00:35:16  <ecthiender> baali, there is also indexDB
2014-06-02T00:35:39  <baali> yeah saw some tutorial related to it
2014-06-02T00:35:46  <ecthiender> baali, I think none of the browsers implemented writing to arbitrary locations on user's hard drive..
2014-06-02T00:36:05  <ecthiender> baali, what's your use case/scenario?
2014-06-02T00:36:12  <ecthiender> baali, what kind of data you want to store?
2014-06-02T00:36:16  <baali> ecthiender: was trying to write a chrome extension
2014-06-02T00:36:39  <baali> sort of like pinit...
2014-06-02T00:36:53  <ecthiender> ah! I think then you might have access to other APIs which can let you write to files?
2014-06-02T00:36:53  <ecthiender> but I am not sure
2014-06-02T00:37:14  <ecthiender> but plugin developers have more power than web developers! :D
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2014-06-02T00:38:36  <baali> possible... have to find out
2014-06-02T00:38:37  <ecthiender> zoso, welcome back..sea of monsters at your end?
2014-06-02T00:39:40  <zoso> ecthiender, well the kraken has not yet been unleashed :P I haven't spoken to d yet.
2014-06-02T00:40:20  <zoso> and the net is so slow, that I have a huge lag in irc :{
2014-06-02T00:40:45  <ecthiender> baali, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5429513/writing-to-local-file-system-in-chrome-extension
2014-06-02T00:40:46  <alipi_not> Title: javascript - Writing to local file system in Chrome extension - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com)
2014-06-02T00:41:05  <baali> checking
2014-06-02T00:41:14  <ecthiender> zoso, thats what I meant by sea of monsters :-}
2014-06-02T00:41:38  <zoso> oh :)
2014-06-02T00:41:57  <zoso> the kraken will be unleashed on 10th
2014-06-02T00:43:13  <baali> too much of pirates of Caribbean?
2014-06-02T00:43:14  <baali> :P
2014-06-02T00:44:51  <zoso> hehe :)
2014-06-02T00:48:09  <ecthiender> zoso, btw..do you know anything about the label.js file in the annotorious code..it has been removed?
2014-06-02T00:48:28  <zoso> ecthiender, yes it has been removed, and is not needed
2014-06-02T00:48:39  <ecthiender> zoso, okay
2014-06-02T01:06:14  <ecthiender> zoso, hey so when I sweet now, with whatever bhanu pushed, I get two sweets for each annotation?
2014-06-02T01:07:07  <zoso> ecthiender, yes, he was trying to fix that.
2014-06-02T01:07:20  <ecthiender> zoso, oh okay.
2014-06-02T01:07:27  <ecthiender> zoso, so that's a known problem?
2014-06-02T01:07:35  <zoso> ecthiender, yes
2014-06-02T01:09:06  <ecthiender> zoso, hey so maybe I can look into the problem, and he can start on the narrative thing?
2014-06-02T01:09:50  <zoso> ecthiender, sure, you can, if you don't have many things on your plate.
2014-06-02T01:09:56  <ecthiender> zoso, because anyway I have to work on this now..so he can concentrate on something else..
2014-06-02T01:10:10  <ecthiender> zoso, dude..I am working on this thing itself right now..
2014-06-02T01:10:17  <zoso> ok
2014-06-02T01:10:22  <zoso> cool :)
2014-06-02T01:10:36  <zoso> So then I was thinking of starting to work on the browser plugin
2014-06-02T01:11:19  <zoso> So Bhanu can do that with me, and then we can look at the narrative thing
2014-06-02T01:12:23  <ecthiender> zoso, I also fixed few of small issues -  the image is not annotatable the first time you load etc.
2014-06-02T01:12:46  <ecthiender> zoso, isn't the narrative to be worked on first and then the plugin?
2014-06-02T01:14:23  <zoso> ecthiender, both are to be delivered by 20th
2014-06-02T01:15:11  <zoso> Hmmm, ya lets work on the narrative thing first
2014-06-02T01:15:19  <zoso> and then lets do the plugin
2014-06-02T01:16:39  <zoso> ecthiender, will be back after lunch.
2014-06-02T01:17:41  <ecthiender> zoso,  sure
2014-06-02T02:27:39  <ecthiender> zoso, ping
2014-06-02T02:35:31  <zoso> ecthiender, pong
2014-06-02T02:36:50  <ecthiender> zoso, I have forgotten what I wanted to talk about
2014-06-02T02:37:02  <zoso> :/
2014-06-02T02:37:04  <zoso> :(
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2014-06-02T05:45:49  <ecthiender> zoso, what do you think of running a tor relay on mothership?
2014-06-02T05:48:26  <ecthiender> baali, the hosting space you have, is it on a dedicated server, a VPS, or just a hosting space?
2014-06-02T05:49:25  <baali> ecthiender: dedicated server
2014-06-02T05:49:54  <ecthiender> baali, oh nice. from where do you rent it out? which datacenter/provider I mean?
2014-06-02T05:50:14  <baali> hetzner
2014-06-02T05:50:27  <ecthiender> oh okay.
2014-06-02T05:50:43  <ecthiender> ours is hetzner too. :)
2014-06-02T05:51:04  <baali> yeah zoso was talking about it initially when I came to  bangalore...
2014-06-02T05:52:24  <baali> man this having a simple chrome extension part to manage some files locally is such a PITA... :-/
2014-06-02T05:52:40  <ecthiender> how long have you been using their service?
2014-06-02T05:53:06  <ecthiender> ha ha! yeah, anything system related from a web application is always a PITA!
2014-06-02T05:53:25  <baali> ecthiender: almost 4 years
2014-06-02T05:54:11  <baali> but ecthiender this is not web related.. its a extension sitting inside browser and I dont want to write a client server thing for it :(
2014-06-02T05:54:49  <ecthiender> baali, hmm. what exactly are you trying to do? I mean you mentioned pinit. so you want to pin stuff on the web pages?
2014-06-02T05:55:06  <baali> nah... say I am visiting a url... I want to Log it
2014-06-02T05:55:10  <baali> nothing else!
2014-06-02T05:55:15  <ecthiender> log it? meaning?
2014-06-02T05:55:23  <baali> on my local filesystem instead of pushing it to google drive
2014-06-02T05:55:25  <ecthiender> like your browsers history? :P
2014-06-02T05:55:35  <baali> ecthiender: create a record.... yeah eg-jactly ...
2014-06-02T05:56:10  <baali> but history stores everything and anything.. some specific links you find more "precious" to log
2014-06-02T05:56:23  <ecthiender> hmm..bookmark? :P
2014-06-02T05:56:26  <baali> something like instapaper
2014-06-02T05:56:38  <ecthiender> I am trying to understand the use case..
2014-06-02T05:56:41  <baali> ecthiender: but all those formats are very limited to browser ...
2014-06-02T05:57:00  <baali> see... have a simple csv .... for each day.. log of interesting urls
2014-06-02T05:57:08  <ecthiender> ah! you want to read it as well? like Pocket?
2014-06-02T05:57:37  <baali> ecthiender: well... for the start... not reading.. just logging the url and its title
2014-06-02T05:58:59  <ecthiender> baali, hmm..yeah writing to a file.. idk..but you can use indexeddb..
2014-06-02T05:59:00  <baali> I know it sounds ... overtly complicated ..... and there can be methods to simplify or use existing tools the way
2014-06-02T05:59:18  <ecthiender> you can also just connect to a db running on your machine and write it there..
2014-06-02T05:59:41  <ecthiender> or I have an idea, Idk if you'd like it or not, you can sweet it out :P
2014-06-02T05:59:51  <baali> err... sweet!
2014-06-02T06:00:06  <baali> ecthiender: that will involve client server, ajax, to and fro ...
2014-06-02T06:00:08  <baali> :P
2014-06-02T06:01:22  <ecthiender> umm..no server..the server is an existing sweet store (i.e if you chose to use an existing one, or you have to deploy your own)..you need to send out a http request everytime you want to "log" something..
2014-06-02T06:02:19  <baali> yeah I don't want that :P
2014-06-02T06:02:44  <baali> I can have my own server running in that case and do a send and stuff locally
2014-06-02T06:03:17  <ecthiender> hmm..but you'd need to code up some server code for it..
2014-06-02T06:03:45  <ecthiender> or you can use the browser's indexeddb
2014-06-02T06:18:53  <zoso> ecthiender, ya, we can do that :)
2014-06-02T06:30:27  <ecthiender> done for the day guys..leaving now..will be online again later in the night I guess.
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2014-06-02T23:27:23  <ecthiender> zoso, hey this is also pretty nice http://raphaeljs.com
2014-06-02T23:27:24  <alipi_not> Title: Raphaël—JavaScript Library (at raphaeljs.com)
2014-06-02T23:27:37  <zoso> ecthiender, hey, I have checked this out
2014-06-02T23:29:24  <ecthiender> hmm
2014-06-02T23:38:36  <zoso> ecthiender, http://bpaste.net/show/ze7tbh4x8dbmKxTvw51Z/
2014-06-02T23:38:37  <alipi_not> Title: Paste #ze7tbh4x8dbmKxTvw51Z at spacepaste (at bpaste.net)
2014-06-02T23:38:51  <zoso> ecthiender, I am sending that in a mail to d, check if it is fine
2014-06-02T23:39:31  <zoso> ecthiender, should I add something more? or remove something?
2014-06-02T23:42:22  <ecthiender> zoso, umm isn't the second completed task same as the first not completed task?
2014-06-02T23:44:54  <zoso> ecthiender, No, I will make the changes. In the second completed task, I meant integrating with the editor. And the incomplete task is to show the sweet in a popup
2014-06-02T23:45:04  <zoso> I will make the lines better.
2014-06-02T23:45:28  <ecthiender> zoso, hey so you have already integrated it with the editor?
2014-06-02T23:46:11  <zoso> ecthiender, ya, yesterday I had done that, that is what I told you on the call too :)
2014-06-02T23:46:21  <zoso> And that I will make a jsfiddle for you
2014-06-02T23:46:33  <ecthiender> zoso, no thats fine then. you go ahead and finish the task
2014-06-02T23:47:10  <ecthiender> zoso, and then publish it on app.swtr.us
2014-06-02T23:47:54  <zoso> ecthiender, but what you were doing yesterday was relevant for me, having another key value pair inside annotation object
2014-06-02T23:47:59  <zoso> could you do that?
2014-06-02T23:51:50  <zoso> ecthiender, http://bpaste.net/show/hpPmXaEcZzq1IEvENe4P/
2014-06-02T23:51:51  <alipi_not> Title: Paste #hpPmXaEcZzq1IEvENe4P at spacepaste (at bpaste.net)
2014-06-02T23:52:00  <zoso> that is better?
2014-06-02T23:58:31  <ecthiender> zoso, yeah
2014-06-02T23:58:48  <zoso> cool :)
2014-06-02T23:58:56  <zoso> you in the middle of something?